That can't be a real wreath. It must be some sort of applique. How vulgar. Also a palm tree so near your window? That's a messy mistake. But, if your comfortable with vulgar and messy mistakes, by all means, date Wilbur.
Can Mary tell me what is so fascinating about Wilbur? That he's a drunken mess and writes and advice column? That he manages to keep those hairs on his head perfectly combed over? That people give this loser the time of day? Mary, if he's so fascinating and wonderful, why don't you grab him for yourself? SHEESH!
Wanders, I too think that the wreath is one of those applique type deals. There is no way that wreath can suspend all by itself.
I noted that wreath earlier this week and also figured it was a plastic film stick-on. How non-festive - bleah. It’s the decoration version of Mary’s revolting fruitcake.
When did Estelle write to Wilbur? He previously said he neglected her when he was in Mozambique. And what’s with the one-on-one talks? All of us have plenty of adjectives to describe Wilbur, but “fascinating” and “worthwhile” are not among them.
@Regina Wolfe-Parks, Dr. Jeff has the extra asset of disappearing for months until Mary needs to take him out of a box, dust him off, go for a cruise, and hit the early bird dinner at the Bum Boat. Then he makes himself scarce again. No singing outside Mary’s window by him!
Mary is despicable for trying (worthwhile? fascinating?) to foist Wilbur onto this poor lonely sap of a widow, and Moy is despicable for (we assume) letting it happen.
FAULT 1: Going to Mozambique for months and dropping Estelle like a hot potato - not "keeping in touch" FAULT 2: Setting up a double date with his ex (without asking Estelle - surprise!) FAULT 3: Getting totally drunk on purple Macallan juice, insulting Zak AND Iris, dribbling food on himself, acting a fool, spilling wine on Iris and then molesting her (not using "Chin Napkin" appropriately), passing out, etc. (many faults actually) FAULT 4: Not apologizing to anyone FAULT 5: Dating Zak
There are so many other "endearing quirks" which Estelle correctly calls faults now.
I don't think even the American Psychological Association has a entry in "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)" for what's going on here.
I sometimes wonder whether Wilbur Weston is named after Wilbur the pig in _Charlotte's Web_? Consider: - runty, porcine appearance - whiny, helpless, self-pitying personality - relies on a female spinner of webs to sing his praises to others
Granted he may not be "terrific", "radiant", or "humble" (even Mary is only willing to commit to such double-edged words of praise as "endearingly quirky", "fascinating" and "worth while") but no-one can deny that he is "some pig" all right.
I wonder if Wilbur has a part-time job as Bad Santa at Generic Mall. I can imagine him regularly sneaking a pull from his flask and hitting on all the moms.
Sadly, Chester the Dog is correct. Christmas Eve KM will have vignettes of Christmas at Charterstone and there will be Wilbur and Estelle together at Estelle's piano singing an out of context carol.
I feel like we're all being gaslighted (gaslit?). We're just guinea pigs in Moy's grand experiment, to see how long we can be shown one thing and told another before we all snap and run screaming into the night.
Laughing a lot at today’s comments! Little Nell, I love the Charlotte’s Web comparison! As for these two, Mary, the Enabler is of course not suggesting Estelle set som boundaries with the apparently irresistible Wilbur...
SATURDAY The only adjective Mary can come up with today to describe Wilbur is a pained, fumbling “unique.” That covers a lot of unsettling bases. Estelle you dumb bunny, you’re barking up at the wrong tree.
SATURDAY (which I mistakenly posted on Thursday's comments so nobody probably saw it): Estelle is still holding her fruitcake mini-plate in that absurdly delicate and impractical fashion, perhaps to take our attention away from that mangled mass of fingers emerging from Mary's left sleeve. Meanwhile, one of the commenters on Comics Kingdom claims to have seen a society page photo of Moy and hubby, who apparently looks much like Wilbur.
Hey, Yahoonski, good catch noticing Mary's six fingers in Saturday's strip! Hard to believe Wanders didn't jump all over that. He must have been out caroling all day.
Anyway, I saw that same comment about Moy and the society event, but... It's the wrong Karen Moy. If you compare that Moy's photo to the photo of 'our' Moy on the Mary Worth website, you'll see that our Moy is a lot ... er; a lot more... er; a lot less... Let's just say, "It ain't her."
I wanted this story line to end in the worst possible way, and it looks like it's going to.
And what does she mean "the one time" he behaved badly? I'd say plopping down on her couch and commandeering the TV to watch boxing while slurping on wine coolers was bad behavior. As was disturbing the entire building at night with that stupid boombox stunt.
Besides, doesn't Estelle yet realize that she's Wilbur's fallback plan?
Oh well. In the immortal words of I-forget-who-said-it, I could use a muffin right now.
HelenClark: I looked up images of Karen Moy, and the only male I saw in any of the photos was tall and looked rather like Christopher Plummer. Maybe that wasn't "our" Karen Moy, but the dude looked nothing like Wilbur.
What are these "great qualities" Mary speaks of in Sunday's strip? So far, Wilbur has treated Estelle quite poorly. He was never that great to Iris either - he dumped her for an obvious scammer (Fabiana) and then he stalked her (Iris) when she started dating someone else. He didn't contact Estelle at all when he was in Mozambique (there are internet cafes and cell networks there), and when he got back he made her watch boxing, and then he made a huge ass of himself in public twice (at the restaurant and then when he blasted that boom box out her window). He has also driven drunk (up to the cliff), which is a stupid, selfish thing to do.
Estelle must have no self respect to want to get back with that loser.
I might add that Estelle owes Wilbur nothing, not even an explanation. They had a handful of dates, that's all. She can even tell Wilbur it's not me, it's you.
At this point, all I want for Christmas is for Libby to suffocate Estelle in her sleep. I’m pretty sure Estelle’s nightmares about Wilbur and the Wilbuettes have led her to sign over her “comfortable” savings to a car shelter..
Great comments, as usual, everyone. Like, I am completely baffled by Mary's constant harping on Wilboor's good qualities. When has he ever show any redeeming qualities? WHEN, I ask you?? And as Scottie pointed out, it's been a whole lot of bad behavior. Did they have some wonderful, romantic dates that we were never shown? Ugh.
Scottie, I forgot to say thanks for pointing out Mary's mutated hand. I don't know what's going on there. That's one of the things I love about this group; I would miss these things on my own. Although, once I looked at that frame again (Saturday, panel 1), I was kinda freaked out by their eyes. I guess they're looking down, and so their eyelids are partly closed. Is that's what's going on? Whatever it is, they look really odd.
I looked up images of Karen Moy, and the only male I saw in any of the photos was tall and looked rather like Christopher Plummer. Maybe that wasn't "our" Karen Moy, but the dude looked nothing like Wilbur.
I saw that same picture and that man is none other than Joe Giella; clicking on it led to a blog that linked to an interview with the two of them from 2014.
MONDAY Uh oh, Libby appears to be smiling, which Estelle will no doubt interpret as a sign to once again go out with Wilbur. Some Christmas gift for us - egad.
I’ve never watched Hallmark Channel Christmas movies, but it occurred to me that the Wilbur-Estelle situation would be the worst Hallmark Christmas movie possible.
MONDAY: Once again, Wilbur smells of desperation (among other things). I'm sure this is not the first phone call and it won't be the last. Estelle seems to have this smirk on her face like she's saying "Good. Let him twist in the wind." A normal person would have gotten a restraining order, but this is Estelle we're talking about.
Yesterday Mary gave the "he who is without sin" speech and that we should forgive Wilbur for his transgressions. Estelle says she saw him act badly only once. Wha...what about the slippers, wine cooler and commandeering her Netflix to watch boxing and his standing in the rain with his boombox disturbing all of the neighbors. I'm not even mentioning his stalking Iris and arranging a double date so he can gloat, only to make a drunken idiot of himself. I would be going to Dawn to see if she could have Wilbur committed. These are not the acts of a rational human being.
I can only hope that Estelle is going to get more "unique" behavior from Wilboor.
Don't do it, Estelle!! He's only calling, because he doesn't want to spend Christmas Eve alone, getting stinko on eggnog while watching the Pope's Christmas Eve mass from St. Peter's.
Oops, thanks for correcting, Scottie! It was in fact Yahoonski's sharp eye that caught the mutant Mary-hand.
Here's what I predict Estelle will be singing soon:
I'll have a blue Christmas with Wilbur. I get so blue just thinking of Wilbur. Mary, what have you done, did you think this was fun? To foist him on me, and say he was the one.
And when that boorish moron starts calling, That's when those blue feelings start falling Oh Mary, you'll be all right. You'll see Jeff for the night. But I'll have a blue, blue blue blue Christmas.
Wishing Wanders, his family, and all my Worthiverse friends a peaceful Christmas Eve, Happy Hanukkah, and a joyful holiday time!
Panel 1: Wilbur’s using his new iEraser phone, an early Christmas gift from himself to himself.
Panel 2: Honestly, Estelle, why are you always willing to do what Wilbur wants? Why not this: “No, Wilbur, I want to have dinner at the new bistro, GiGi’s, and then see ‘Little Women.’ And don’t drink before you get here, buster!”
Don't be shy! I'd love to hear what you have to say about Mary Worth. Just keep it clean, that's all I ask. This is a FAMILY FRIENDLY blog. I don't want to moderate comments, but I will if I have to.
Can Mary tell me what is so fascinating about Wilbur? That he's a drunken mess and writes and advice column? That he manages to keep those hairs on his head perfectly combed over? That people give this loser the time of day? Mary, if he's so fascinating and wonderful, why don't you grab him for yourself? SHEESH!
ReplyDeleteWanders, I too think that the wreath is one of those applique type deals. There is no way that wreath can suspend all by itself.
Today's Boldface Haiku is titled
ReplyDelete"Mary's Campaign To Move Wilbur Out Of Charterstone Continues".
Singing, writing,
One-on-one...
Faults...
Fascinating, worthwile.
Second chance?
Maybe.
I noted that wreath earlier this week and also figured it was a plastic film stick-on. How non-festive - bleah. It’s the decoration version of Mary’s revolting fruitcake.
ReplyDeleteWhen did Estelle write to Wilbur? He previously said he neglected her when he was in Mozambique. And what’s with the one-on-one talks? All of us have plenty of adjectives to describe Wilbur, but “fascinating” and “worthwhile” are not among them.
@Regina Wolfe-Parks, Dr. Jeff has the extra asset of disappearing for months until Mary needs to take him out of a box, dust him off, go for a cruise, and hit the early bird dinner at the Bum Boat. Then he makes himself scarce again. No singing outside Mary’s window by him!
Mary is despicable for trying (worthwhile? fascinating?) to foist Wilbur onto this poor lonely sap of a widow, and Moy is despicable for (we assume) letting it happen.
ReplyDeleteFAULT 1: Going to Mozambique for months and dropping Estelle like a hot potato - not "keeping in touch"
ReplyDeleteFAULT 2: Setting up a double date with his ex (without asking Estelle - surprise!)
FAULT 3: Getting totally drunk on purple Macallan juice, insulting Zak AND Iris, dribbling food on himself, acting a fool, spilling wine on Iris and then molesting her (not using "Chin Napkin" appropriately), passing out, etc. (many faults actually)
FAULT 4: Not apologizing to anyone
FAULT 5: Dating Zak
There are so many other "endearing quirks" which Estelle correctly calls faults now.
I don't think even the American Psychological Association has a entry in "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)" for what's going on here.
ReplyDeleteI sometimes wonder whether Wilbur Weston is named after Wilbur the pig in _Charlotte's Web_? Consider:
ReplyDelete- runty, porcine appearance
- whiny, helpless, self-pitying personality
- relies on a female spinner of webs to sing his praises to others
Granted he may not be "terrific", "radiant", or "humble" (even Mary is only willing to commit to such double-edged words of praise as "endearingly quirky", "fascinating" and "worth while") but no-one can deny that he is "some pig" all right.
They will get together by Christmas, my prediction, and all will be good.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Wilbur has a part-time job as Bad Santa at Generic Mall. I can imagine him regularly sneaking a pull from his flask and hitting on all the moms.
-- Scottie McW.
It appears the wreath has ornaments and a bow on the front while there are suction cup "faux balls" on the back. Ingenious, really.
ReplyDeleteSadly, Chester the Dog is correct. Christmas Eve KM will have vignettes of Christmas at Charterstone and there will be Wilbur and Estelle together at Estelle's piano singing an out of context carol.
ReplyDeleteI feel like we're all being gaslighted (gaslit?). We're just guinea pigs in Moy's grand experiment, to see how long we can be shown one thing and told another before we all snap and run screaming into the night.
ReplyDeleteLaughing a lot at today’s comments! Little Nell, I love the Charlotte’s Web comparison! As for these two, Mary, the Enabler is of course not suggesting Estelle set som boundaries with the apparently irresistible Wilbur...
ReplyDelete@SandiEgo: You're right, they do look like suction cups. I was wondering how it was being held up on the window.
ReplyDeleteSATURDAY
ReplyDeleteThe only adjective Mary can come up with today to describe Wilbur is a pained, fumbling “unique.” That covers a lot of unsettling bases. Estelle you dumb bunny, you’re barking up at the wrong tree.
SATURDAY (which I mistakenly posted on Thursday's comments so nobody probably saw it): Estelle is still holding her fruitcake mini-plate in that absurdly delicate and impractical fashion, perhaps to take our attention away from that mangled mass of fingers emerging from Mary's left sleeve. Meanwhile, one of the commenters on Comics Kingdom claims to have seen a society page photo of Moy and hubby, who apparently looks much like Wilbur.
ReplyDeleteSUNDAY: ARRRRGHHHHHHH!
Hey, Yahoonski, good catch noticing Mary's six fingers in Saturday's strip! Hard to believe Wanders didn't jump all over that. He must have been out caroling all day.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I saw that same comment about Moy and the society event, but... It's the wrong Karen Moy. If you compare that Moy's photo to the photo of 'our' Moy on the Mary Worth website, you'll see that our Moy is a lot ... er; a lot more... er; a lot less... Let's just say, "It ain't her."
HelenClark
ReplyDeleteSUNDAY
Nooooooooooooooo!!!
I wanted this story line to end in the worst possible way, and it looks like it's going to.
And what does she mean "the one time" he behaved badly? I'd say plopping down on her couch and commandeering the TV to watch boxing while slurping on wine coolers was bad behavior. As was disturbing the entire building at night with that stupid boombox stunt.
Besides, doesn't Estelle yet realize that she's Wilbur's fallback plan?
Oh well. In the immortal words of I-forget-who-said-it, I could use a muffin right now.
-- S. McW.
SUNDAY
ReplyDeleteWhat Estelle should have said: “Your fruitcake is amazingly terrible, Mary!”
It’s probably too late for Estelle to ask Santa to bring her a brain and a backbone.
HelenClark: I looked up images of Karen Moy, and the only male I saw in any of the photos was tall and looked rather like Christopher Plummer. Maybe that wasn't "our" Karen Moy, but the dude looked nothing like Wilbur.
ReplyDeleteWhat are these "great qualities" Mary speaks of in Sunday's strip? So far, Wilbur has treated Estelle quite poorly. He was never that great to Iris either - he dumped her for an obvious scammer (Fabiana) and then he stalked her (Iris) when she started dating someone else. He didn't contact Estelle at all when he was in Mozambique (there are internet cafes and cell networks there), and when he got back he made her watch boxing, and then he made a huge ass of himself in public twice (at the restaurant and then when he blasted that boom box out her window). He has also driven drunk (up to the cliff), which is a stupid, selfish thing to do.
ReplyDeleteEstelle must have no self respect to want to get back with that loser.
I might add that Estelle owes Wilbur nothing, not even an explanation. They had a handful of dates, that's all. She can even tell Wilbur it's not me, it's you.
DeleteEstelle should just settle down and read books by her favorite author, Anita Mann.
ReplyDeleteAt this point, all I want for Christmas is for Libby to suffocate Estelle in her sleep. I’m pretty sure Estelle’s nightmares about Wilbur and the Wilbuettes have led her to sign over her “comfortable” savings to a car shelter..
ReplyDeleteUh, that’s a CAT shelter..
ReplyDeleteGreat comments, as usual, everyone. Like, I am completely baffled by Mary's constant harping on Wilboor's good qualities. When has he ever show any redeeming qualities? WHEN, I ask you?? And as Scottie pointed out, it's been a whole lot of bad behavior. Did they have some wonderful, romantic dates that we were never shown? Ugh.
ReplyDeleteScottie, I forgot to say thanks for pointing out Mary's mutated hand. I don't know what's going on there. That's one of the things I love about this group; I would miss these things on my own. Although, once I looked at that frame again (Saturday, panel 1), I was kinda freaked out by their eyes. I guess they're looking down, and so their eyelids are partly closed. Is that's what's going on? Whatever it is, they look really odd.
ReplyDeleteYahoonski said...
ReplyDeleteI looked up images of Karen Moy, and the only male I saw in any of the photos was tall and looked rather like Christopher Plummer. Maybe that wasn't "our" Karen Moy, but the dude looked nothing like Wilbur.
I saw that same picture and that man is none other than Joe Giella; clicking on it led to a blog that linked to an interview with the two of them from 2014.
MONDAY
ReplyDeleteUh oh, Libby appears to be smiling, which Estelle will no doubt interpret as a sign to once again go out with Wilbur. Some Christmas gift for us - egad.
I’ve never watched Hallmark Channel Christmas movies, but it occurred to me that the Wilbur-Estelle situation would be the worst Hallmark Christmas movie possible.
ReplyDeleteHi, lmjb1964. Actually, that was Yahoonski who noticed the hand. I totally missed it too.
-- S. McW.
MONDAY: Once again, Wilbur smells of desperation (among other things). I'm sure this is not the first phone call and it won't be the last. Estelle seems to have this smirk on her face like she's saying "Good. Let him twist in the wind." A normal person would have gotten a restraining order, but this is Estelle we're talking about.
ReplyDeleteYesterday Mary gave the "he who is without sin" speech and that we should forgive Wilbur for his transgressions. Estelle says she saw him act badly only once. Wha...what about the slippers, wine cooler and commandeering her Netflix to watch boxing and his standing in the rain with his boombox disturbing all of the neighbors. I'm not even mentioning his stalking Iris and arranging a double date so he can gloat, only to make a drunken idiot of himself. I would be going to Dawn to see if she could have Wilbur committed. These are not the acts of a rational human being.
I can only hope that Estelle is going to get more "unique" behavior from Wilboor.
Don't do it, Estelle!! He's only calling, because he doesn't want to spend Christmas Eve alone, getting stinko on eggnog while watching the Pope's Christmas Eve mass from St. Peter's.
ReplyDeleteOops, thanks for correcting, Scottie! It was in fact Yahoonski's sharp eye that caught the mutant Mary-hand.
ReplyDeleteHere's what I predict Estelle will be singing soon:
I'll have a blue Christmas with Wilbur.
I get so blue just thinking of Wilbur.
Mary, what have you done, did you think this was fun?
To foist him on me, and say he was the one.
And when that boorish moron starts calling,
That's when those blue feelings start falling
Oh Mary, you'll be all right.
You'll see Jeff for the night.
But I'll have a blue, blue blue blue Christmas.
@lmjb1964, excellent lyrics! I could hear Elvis crooning this and the back-up singers adding their 'ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ing."
ReplyDeleteTuesday
ReplyDeleteWishing Wanders, his family, and all my Worthiverse friends a peaceful Christmas Eve, Happy Hanukkah, and a joyful holiday time!
Panel 1: Wilbur’s using his new iEraser phone, an early Christmas gift from himself to himself.
Panel 2: Honestly, Estelle, why are you always willing to do what Wilbur wants? Why not this: “No, Wilbur, I want to have dinner at the new bistro, GiGi’s, and then see ‘Little Women.’ And don’t drink before you get here, buster!”